If not, you are going to need to reset the swimming pool. Use a water level or transit and move contiunously Because I dont want a call back from a customer two days later when they looked down, saw that a piece of track wasnt attached to the bottom of the wall, and then think that I did a poor job of installing their pool. Push The Track Piece To See If It Budges, Pool Wall Buckling While Filling! Its an absolute truth though. Pool Base Its good to know that conceptually before attempting this repair. (Fixed), Bear Mountain Pellets Vs Traeger Pellets (Compared), How To Put Wood Siding On A Camper (Explained), Best Campers For Dodge Dakota (With Examples! Will you have play? The bottom tracks of above ground swimming pools have to be assembled by sliding them into connectors. Nothing is precise so there are adjustable gaps in the connectors and the track doesnt sit perfectly in them either. The result is the track can easily become a shape other than what it is supposed to be. Though, there is always the possibility that it wont hold and I leave the decision up to them. Looking for an inexpensive way to repair the wall to our 18 ft Above Ground Pool. This is rarely done, though. I have an 18 ft round that somehow got a smaller than a nickel size slit in the metal wall. Any feedback is so appreciated. It can only buckle while the pool is filling. Upon seeing this, you get a sinking feeling in your stomach. In reality, once an above-ground pool is up, level, and in its correct shape(round or oval), you can remove the bottom track and nothing would happen. Don't worry; this is perfectly normal. Its a common occurrence, especially if your liner is a little bit tauter than most. Thank you Start by having one person keeping the metal roll upright and another person holding the outside end and placing it inside the bottom track. Fortunately, it is not so difficult and with proper planning and some hard work youll be swimming in no time. Well, you'll never get the wall back in the track with the pool full. It's nearly impossible. As far as top rails not lining up, make sure you're not tightening the screws down until all the rails are on. Just screw them in enough to hold the rails and you can wiggle them. Is this anomaly a concern? This is not an easy repair, but works well when done right. Then I would bolt the pieces of sheet metal to the existing wall all the way around the rust holes. If just one piece of track, I would most likely leave it alone. If the pool is level, then the foreground top rails will line up with the background ones. I will take some picture of this and try to post them on this wall tomorrow. Then add your pH (soda ash), alkalinity increaser (sodium bicarbonate) and calcium. Ralph Tarulli is a pools and construction expert with 7+ years' experience working on pools, and 10+ years' experience in commercial construction. Thanks for your help! it rose only on the side about 1.5 which means the top plate no longer can reach the upright side supports. This might cause the connection point to weaken and damage the pool. If your inground pool wall is buckled, you can remove the deck above first to take the weight off of the pool wall, then you can work the wall panel with 24s and a After pushing up and in place, add some dirt or a rock to keep the track up and with the wall and youre done. When the bottom track is out from the wall at a connector plate or two, its usually an indication that the wall moved out of place either when it was rolled out and into the track OR when the pool filled with water (and the water moved the wall). The big concern here is not with the structure of the pool. We would push the stone dust under the rail where we believe the rail has sunk in the sand. I would look for a leak. Install the return fitting in the same manner and then cut out the remaining liner in the skimmer mouth to create the opening. Obviously we wont be allowing them to do that anymore but unfortunately the damage is done. In reality, the track doesnt have to be connected to the wall in these spots. The Swimming Pool Forums For my own peace of mind I did decide to dig out the sand right up to the wall track (being careful to leave alone what was under it so the cove didnt fall out), and replaced it with packed 1/2- gravel. This sounds like a dumb way to tell if a pool is level, but your eye will pick up on it if its off more than an inch. Youll need to perform a service call to remove water before attempting a liner pull. Great site, very helpful info, keep up the good work, thanks again. We had hoped we could replace the one piece of track without taking down the whole pool wall. I pulled some of the soil out and noticed the track at the bottom, and that the sheet metal of the wall wasnt connected. Or could it be that it is not in a perfect circle somehow? You may want to take off an upright or two when doing this so you can see the track and bottom connector better. Sometimes pool owners will replace their pool because its top rails are too rusty or some of the uprights and pieces of bottom track have rusted out. You dont have to fix this (most likely), but if you want to, then remember that the wall is the constant. Make your room to move the track, bottom connector, and upright by digging under. Second, pump Even if you are handy enough to replace the wall, it is going to cost you between $800 and $1200 for the wall delivered, plus another $400-$700 for a liner. If putting the wall back into the track does not fix the wall problem I would investigate the problem. Above-ground pools can rise 4 feet or more off the ground, so installing a good set of pool steps to safely get in and out of the pool is a necessity. This type of repair can easily cause cove damage. It may not be off-level at all or just a little. The blocks should be level with the track so everything lines up once the wall and top rail are installed. We have a 30ft round with a deck on about a quarter of the pool. In addition to the glue, the pressure of the water against the liner and against the metal patch will allow it to hold in place. Stop liner instalation and get that wall back in the track and proceed with caution. If the rust holes are closer to the bottom of the pools wall, then thats worse and should possibly require more than just a simple patch job. We leveled the ground and have the pool tracking and wall in place on one side I have noticed that the wall keeps popping out of the track and we push it back in and with in a few minutes it will be worked out again. We were very careful with everything and bought a new liner. It is these tips that are going to help when the above ground pool wall came out of track. To match up the track with the wall, you have to adjust the track. This can happen for a couple of reasons.
Two of these models were very prone to having the bottom track sag down between the uprights (leveling blocks). If the cove is intact, and you did not need to drain your pool, all is good. Start slowly, adding the chemicals in front of the return to help mix them in and limit the risk of bleaching (when you start a fresh pool you will be using chlorine shock instead of tablets, which are highly concentrated). It can also mean that the pool is out of shape too as the wall may be either inside where the track is or the bottom track has pushed outward (away from its original round spot. With the pool cut into the ground we plan to back fill with weeping tile and dirt (stone dust). that it is out of shape by roughly 4 inches at most. I could probably get the track on the bottom of the wall, but Im not sure that you can. My question is, are foam coves worth the cost? This will be the front of the pump that goes into the basket. This may seem dangerous, but youll have to grab the track piece that is sagging down and try to push it up and back with the wall bottom. Is it a measurement the pool can handle or do we need to dismount it and do it all over? Drain the pool. This could be easy if the wall is at the exact same curve as the track. The reason a hole lower down is concerning is because the water creates more outward pressure there at the bottom. Above Ground Pool Liner Guards, Gorilla Pads, Rhino Pads. The broken track is still attached at both ends just flattened in the middle. Is the bottom rail sitting flush on the ground in that area ? Make any necessary adjustments and use sand to raise, lower or fill in areas if needed. Wow, such great information in this article. So do you think the opposite end of the pool is where it is the lowest and this is causing the opposing side to pull upwards? I am not sure if my husband had wrote this before but our yard was lower at the back, we dig at the front of the yard to make it even with the back ( we knew not to fill the lower end of the yard) now we are waiting for the rail to be back on track and we are planning to back fill the hole with weeping tile and than put some stone dust against the wall of the pool. We hadnt been able to find any advice. Most chemicals have approximations on the packaging. This is no big deal as the WALL of the pool didnt drop out of level. Im going to assume this is the buckling you are talking about? A wall out of the track usually happens when the track sinks and becomes too low. Also, there is nothing that you can put around the outside of the pool to stop a liner from moving under the wall if you didnt install a cove. You will want to make sure to continue adding dirt to the point it makes it easier for you to see good results. Pool Parts 15ft round with a wall that came out of bottom rail about a foot and a half on each side of the upright bottom plate. There are a couple of hundred different models of metal-walled above-ground pools. Hi. it survived the winter. Where the track (and wall) is NOT supported is at each track piece in between each bottom connector plate. What is the immediate risk of finding a section of wall out of the bottom track? All bodies of water have to be perfectly level. Avoid getting any sand in the track so the metal will be completely in the track channel. Once you get everything watertight it is time to add chemicals. Depending on your type of liner and pool it may be as simple as dragging the liner over and around the pool wall or just on top. In most cases, you are going to have to do more than this to get it to work again. We have a large hole at the return any suggestions/tips/ warnings on how to repair this type of hole. 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Two of these models were very prone to having the bottom track sag down between the uprights (leveling blocks). If the cove is intact, and you did not need to drain your pool, all is good. Start slowly, adding the chemicals in front of the return to help mix them in and limit the risk of bleaching (when you start a fresh pool you will be using chlorine shock instead of tablets, which are highly concentrated). It can also mean that the pool is out of shape too as the wall may be either inside where the track is or the bottom track has pushed outward (away from its original round spot. With the pool cut into the ground we plan to back fill with weeping tile and dirt (stone dust). that it is out of shape by roughly 4 inches at most. I could probably get the track on the bottom of the wall, but Im not sure that you can. My question is, are foam coves worth the cost? This will be the front of the pump that goes into the basket. This may seem dangerous, but youll have to grab the track piece that is sagging down and try to push it up and back with the wall bottom. Is it a measurement the pool can handle or do we need to dismount it and do it all over? Drain the pool. This could be easy if the wall is at the exact same curve as the track. The reason a hole lower down is concerning is because the water creates more outward pressure there at the bottom. Above Ground Pool Liner Guards, Gorilla Pads, Rhino Pads. The broken track is still attached at both ends just flattened in the middle. Is the bottom rail sitting flush on the ground in that area ? Make any necessary adjustments and use sand to raise, lower or fill in areas if needed. Wow, such great information in this article. So do you think the opposite end of the pool is where it is the lowest and this is causing the opposing side to pull upwards? I am not sure if my husband had wrote this before but our yard was lower at the back, we dig at the front of the yard to make it even with the back ( we knew not to fill the lower end of the yard) now we are waiting for the rail to be back on track and we are planning to back fill the hole with weeping tile and than put some stone dust against the wall of the pool. We hadnt been able to find any advice. Most chemicals have approximations on the packaging. This is no big deal as the WALL of the pool didnt drop out of level. Im going to assume this is the buckling you are talking about? A wall out of the track usually happens when the track sinks and becomes too low. Also, there is nothing that you can put around the outside of the pool to stop a liner from moving under the wall if you didnt install a cove. You will want to make sure to continue adding dirt to the point it makes it easier for you to see good results. 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