Finding the position of the Asteroids in the horoscope: When you go to theAstrodienst AG web site, | Privacy Policy | FAQ's | Updates | Site Map |Copyright 2003-2023Luc De Jaeger - Cosmic Technologies (CosmiTec)All Rights Reserved - Site built with the help of Solo Build It! With the opposition,the love may go back and forth, Line. Hence, if you had to substitute an asteroid for a planet, I would substitute the Child asteroid for the Moon. Sounds downright intriguing, doesnt it? His Eros conjunct my mars Also another question.

Jupiter i Mars is aggressive by nature but the sign and house, and aspects made to him will alter how he plays out in synastry. WebAsteroids in Synastry Chart, Free Astrology Calculator. Palestras, minicursos e mesas redondas, onde foram discutidos temas dentro da citologia, com profissionais de alto nvel. 5. They were not born near you in birth time. Exclusive MichaelLovesTrains Productions video. This is a unique relationship that can be harmonious if the two people respect each other and give each other a bit of independence. Hmm I guess that when we met, he might have idealized me a bit in a Piscean way, while I liked him too yet I'm not exactly sure how I really felt back then (it was all too sudden!!). Have other people had that with someone?

It FEELS like power combined with beauty like a beautiful automobile, a Jaguuer. Lilith. union asteroid in synastry.

Persephone conj Moont.

Soul mates share heart love. These people will always be able to surprise each other and encourage each other to learn and develop new abilities and skills. If in synastry, there is a connection between Psyche and that other person, you may feel an unconscious attraction to them, as if you knew them from another life. Aphrodite Love: Seduction. Endurance and fidelity reflect the lovely nature of Juno. YOU are the most important person to me.

Lilith. And if its connected to their north node, you might have just found your soul mate!

But of course I could be wrong about that.

How was your experience in that relationship from those aspects you described in that long termed relationship? Pluto in your partners 1st This placement can be very powerful between two people that are attracted to each other in a love relat Jupiter in synastry represents where we will inspire, encourage and instill faith in our partners, and even addthem luck. It`s not supernatural, but interesting.I think of Union as a rather neutral energy, only signifying that there might be a connection, but the kind of connection will be shown by other aspects, Posts: 4042From: Chennai, IndiaRegistered: Apr 2009, It is 26 Lib 57 0( mine) 26 Lib 13 27 so it would not be to the minute. It also suggests that you have an innocent and playful approach to love. (note: we started dating after 19 days since meeting ^_^; ), There were also some cute aspects between Amor/Destinn/Karma too! Welcome Sassaphy! Partner A - Date of Birth.

This consists of comparing two natal charts to discover what are your strengths, and what aspects you need to work on to make your love bond a strong and solid connection. Truly understanding Love Asteroids could mean the difference between great happiness and misery down the line. Juno in synastry forming an aspect to personal points can indicate long-term relationships.

With asteroids, one should really have them exact to two degrees and two degrees is wide. They will walk away from demanding attachments and their affairs will remain casual and fun.

But if it is in conjunction with Saturn, there is a double whammy effect.

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If your natal Eros is in the sign of Aries, for example, you probably dont like to dawdle when facing your lover. There are many different sides to sexuality. The next step is to find out what's inside. Here are the numbers as well. He`s five years younger, so I guess Union will take about 5 years for one round through the zodiac.If your age difference is 5, 10 or 15 years or close to it, the Union positions are more likely to be conjunct than in other years, though of course they wont be conjunct all year long.

I think the Sun/Eros would make for an erotic relationship, A. Juno was always loyal and committed to this romance, no matter the circumstances. Hi Ami! 5. Hi Ami "I want to welcome you to my website. Did you know that there are multiple asteroids across the galaxy influencing your relationships? Asteroid Aphrodite is a super flirt and very seductive. Quintile my NN (1 degree), My Lilith of Weddings- square his Desire- square his Anacreon- square his Melancholia- oppose his Veritas, HIS "UNION"- cj. Whats your take on that.



Astrology is an excellent tool to understand the depths of your psyche, the underlying drives behind your desires, your passions, and your innermost longings. If so, please talk about it.----- his lilith conjunct my mars-jupiter (2-0) in aqua WebLove Asteroids: Personal Planets, Love, and Sexual Attraction. It can be found in the charts of close friends, family, as well as lovers. This can also be true in a synastry reading. Together they form a unique fingerprint. For instance, Saturn can block the effects, Pluto can intensify it, Neptune can make both parties more compassionate and even overtly generous or idealistic in their dealings with each other. Square my Saturn (3 degree)



Have other people had that with someone? I met someone a few months ago and have been getting closer with them lately.

You seem like a doll, M. I am not surprised about Valentine! Posts: 9778From: Death StarRegistered: Nov 2012. be the equivalent of aspects to the moon? But well, about the hot-epic-thrilling thing.. *blush* aside of the Amor/Karma/Union/Destinn/other asteroids aspects, we have: - his Lust conjunct my NN (1), semi-sextile my Venus/BML (1); - my Lust opposes his Moon (2), square his NN/MC (1/0), conjunct his Vertex/Karma (3/0); - his BML conjunct my DC (3);(there are some other BML aspects but this is the most relevant); - in the draconic synastry, his Lust falls on my Moon/Venus/Mercury/BML stellium; - there were also a few number of aspects with Lust in the transits (mostly to Neptune/Venus/Juno and other asteroids)/SR charts, and maybe progressed charts too. The Asteroids add some more detail and information to the analysis after you delineated the relationship in using the more common methods. his child conjunct my IC (0) in pisces This is a unique relationship that can be harmonious if the two people respect each other and give each other a bit of independence. lol. You can look for more love and sexual asteroids in your birth chart just as you can look at your personal planets. Although there are more love asteroids to explore, already knowing the main ones will take you on a one-way journey to unlock those hidden subtleties about yourself that you may not be aware of yet.
With the asteroids, I allow 2-3 in a conjunction. And lets not forget Mars. All 2 degrees and under. 7. But if theres an Eros Psyche conjunction in synastry, this means you understand each other on a deeper level, one that goes beyond sexual attraction. Look and see what your Child asteroid touches in the chart of your beloved. Semisquare my Pluto (2 degree), My Appolo Jose on the other hand, who killed Carmen in a rage of jealousy, was very much Plutonian.

WebHere we describe the Asteroid Origins Satellite (AOSAT-I), an on-orbit, 3U CubeSat centrifuge using a sandwich-sized bed of crushed meteorite fragments to replicate asteroid surface con-ditions. This is so lovely- I will keep referring to this! WebSynastry Chart Aspect Meaning. Psyche symbolizes the soul, the mind, and the self. Her Juno Square my Moon (2 degree) . For example, a Water Moon will be very empathetic and tender in its romantic love displays, while an Air Moon will lean toward long conversations and spontaneous love letters. The North Node represents our souls goal in this l Mercury in Partners 1st house You will inspire easy communication with your partner. If you have time, can you tell me something about these two aspects? I mean, cappy. We have a lot of aspects so I'm only putting the double whammies here for the asteroids, and the planet to asteroid aspects, and the ones that stick to me. Watch your synastry. WebSynastry Chart Aspect Meaning. With that in mind, I would like to talk about some very powerful soul mate asteroids. Sesquisquare my Moon (1 degree)

Is it super unusual? - his DC/Union/Destinn conjunct my AC (1/0/2);- his Amor oppose my AC (3);- his Union square my Saturn/Valentine/MC (2/0/0);- my Union trine his Amor (1), sextile his Valentine (0), trine his AC (3); - his Union sextile tMars (0), square tDestinn/tUnion/tBML(0/2/1); - my Union conjunct tSaturn/tValentine (0/2), trine tCupido (2); - tUnion oppose my Mars (2), conjunct my DC/Jupiter (0/2), trine my Uranus (0); - his Union sextile tVenus (1), square tAmor/tValentine (0/0); - tUnion trine his Sun (0), quincunx his Venus and Chiron (1/0), trine his Amor (3), square his Valentine (0), sextile his Cupido (0); - my Union trine tSun (1), oppose tChiron (0), sextile tJuno (1), conjunct tValentine (3), semi-sextile tUnion (1); - tUnion oppose My Mars (3), conjunct my DC (3), trine Uranus (1). I checked all my stored charts and only have it with one person. That would be an example of selfless service.

Yes, a lot of them are related one way or another to your romantic life, and its time you start taking them into account! Hes taken the tarot to places most wouldnt think of: His best-known patrons include Torture Garden, The Dark Circus Party, Handel & Hendrix, A Curious Invitation and The Candlelight Club, where he has been resident tarot reader for the past half-decade. Ceres is the mother who does not think of herself, but the needs of her beloved child. Research output: Contribution to journal Short survey peer-review. Conjunct my Saturn (3degree) Can you say if Valentines EXACTLY BY 20 minutes conj to someone elses valentine? Character is needed to endure the hard times.

This can be very lovely.

WebHere we describe the Asteroid Origins Satellite (AOSAT-I), an on-orbit, 3U CubeSat centrifuge using a sandwich-sized bed of crushed meteorite fragments to replicate asteroid surface con-ditions. WebUnion Pacific 7381 leads a nine unit power move eastbound through Queen Creek, Arizona. Valentine/Lust trine natal Union/Uranus, Posts: 1984From: AustraliaRegistered: Apr 2009, In synastry we have:my union square his NN/valentine (1)my union quincunx his vertex/union (1)my union sextile his eros (1)his union trine my moon/venus/saturn/NN/amor (4/2/2/5/1)his union quincunx my proserpina/valentine (1)his union trine my amor (1). Ok thank you!

Also, our synastry with the personal planets are pretty good, some double whammies, and both of us has aspects to each other's north and south node with our personal planet. In synastry we have: my union square his NN/valentine (1) my union quincunx his vertex/union (1) .

Ceres is the unconditional love of a mother for her child. -My alma conjunct his Saturn in my seventh house, and his saturn conjuncts my ascendant.

WebLove Asteroids: Personal Planets, Love, and Sexual Attraction. If one sees couples who have been together for many years and they have that old familiar kind of devotion, that would personify Juno.

Learning about them will gain you a better understanding of your approach to romance, your way of committing, and even why you seem to repeat the same mistakes in every one of your love affairs. Biquintile my Jupiter (0 degree)

Square my Mars (2 degree)

And what does it mean when you have Juno connected to a significant other? Love is child to child.

In this case, its Valentine conjunct Sun. Alma would be like the Moon.

If the Dejanira asteroid is touched in synastry, there can be a crazy combustion. It is associated with the early instances of love, which tingles in the first crushs stomach. The Taurus man Capricorn woman couple make an excellent astrological match due to their shared values, communication style, trust, and loyalty. When it touches a personal part of another persons chart, one may feel as if he can act like a child again.

To learn about all your romantic secrets, it is best to start with the planets.

Once you know how it feels, you will be able to pick this up with other people, whether they be lovers of friends. We have a lot of aspects so I'm only putting the double whammies here for the asteroids, and the planet to asteroid aspects, and the ones that stick to me. Sextile my Mercury (0 degree) WebHere we describe the Asteroid Origins Satellite (AOSAT-I), an on-orbit, 3U CubeSat centrifuge using a sandwich-sized bed of crushed meteorite fragments to replicate asteroid surface con-ditions. If you want to pick 2 simple ones, I will be glad to help but you need hours of study to answer all these questions. Pallas is great wisdom as had the elders of the Indian tribes. The next step is to find out what's inside. Beyond a doubt, incorporating the Asteroids in synastry will open your eyes about otherwise invisible relationship issues. So, if Union aspects Eros or Lust, it might be the wish for a sexual connection, or if Union aspects Amor (like in Lara`s case. AriesLilith Knowflake . Square my Uranus (1 degree) This would include the following planets, as wellSun, Moon, Mercury, Venus and Mars.

IP: Logged. You might even neglect your interests, friendships, and dreams to be with this person. I think ones Moon is ones soul. When transit asteroid Amor is making beneficial aspects youll be bold enough to express your affections to the person you like. Square my Sun (4 degree) Once you have this information at hand, reading about your asteroids will enrich the picture of your romantic life. However, using 10,000+ Asteroids in a chart comparison has no significance, no merit, no value and should be avoided. Time (local time) You are straightforward and your sexual desire is very high. Could you please give an overall perspective on how these asteroids to personal planets/angles would work in synastry: Vesta(4)-Vesta is not soul mate, per se. I think I can tell when song is just Venus/Pluto or Pluto /Ahprodite OR has Uranus added in ,too? This was filmed around 4 pm, just 4 hours after the horrible incident. Thanks! Psyche is an asteroid that represents the functioning of your psyche, as the name implies.

WebWhat would be the chance you would have Union asteroid exactly conjunct another person's Union asteroid? You can turn to sacrificial love just to stay by your loved ones side if you are not careful enough.

It could also point by transit to a new relationship. When the Alma asteroid touches a personal planet of the other, there will be a depth of knowing the person, such as one finds with Moon aspects. @article{0b85f756d8b34589b00cad0c05e264da. In synastry, it is a sign that you enjoy playing catch with the person in question, but as soon as you capture your prey, you will lose interest right away. My amor conjunct his north node I shouldnt have listened to the Habanera.

This is a very loving person! When it touches a personal part of another persons chart, one may feel as if he can act like a child again. Very fascinating. Figures !

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If you really want to use Asteroids in synastry, we recommend using the following ones for a start, aside from the Name Asteroids of the involved persons: When using the Asteroids in synastry (chart comparison) we find it "unscientific" to use orbs wider than 1. I put in Uranus with Carmen there, cause she wouldn`t commit to one man alone. Very nice! A's Aphrodite- sextile A's Venus- sextile A's Valentine- sextile A's Achilles- trine A's Lust- trine A's North Node- trine A's Lucifer- trine A's Icarus- square A's Mars- square A's Mercury- square A's Humptydumpty- oppose A's Juno- oppose A's Ceres, A's "UNION"- cj. When it touches a personal part of another persons chart, one may feel as if he can act like a child again. 1.Valentine- (447)- Valentine is the kind of sacrificial love in which the lover will throw himself in front of the bus to protect his beloved. You don't need to BELIEVE in Jesus to come here and/or to contact me.

I was wandering if you could help me understand these synastry aspects?

Square my Mercury (4 degree) Now, when transit Juno is conjunct a personal planet, this will give you a hint on how solid your current romantic involvement is or how serious you are about it. When they set their sights on a particular person, they will do whatever it takes to achieve their romantic goal. If you are experiencing a transit of asteroid Aphrodite, you will become irresistible to others. WebIf you really want to use Asteroids in synastry, we recommend using the following ones for a start, aside from the Name Asteroids of the involved persons: Sappho: this Asteroid is told to have an interest in sex, resulting in sexual charisma or sexual activity. Anyone can stay when the passion is high. We are not same age..

Sex? Ceres rules many similar domains as Venus: love, beauty, romance, connection, beauty, home, assets, etc. Sextile her Venus (1 degree) This is the asteroid of theinner child. IP: Logged. Asteroid Aphrodite is a super flirt and very seductive. Juno in synastry can reveal a deeper connection and the potential for marriage.

These people will always be able to surprise each other and encourage each other to learn and develop new abilities and skills. There is a tendency to be idealistic, and struggle to stick to a long-term commitment. Synastry charts are complex and you should focus on the key planets and points, but if there is an exact aspect with an asteroid, it should not be omitted. They do matter, to some degree, as does everything in the charts. What about if Valentine is in Opposition to the Sun or conjunct an angle like IC? WebLove Asteroids: Personal Planets, Love, and Sexual Attraction. xoxo, My juno conjunct his venus. Venus conj Karmat. Therefore, this asteroids aspects indicate how loyal you are in your relationships and how much you can put up with for the sake of commitment.

You can rest assured that it will keep you busy for the next couple of days. Astrology is an excellent tool to understand the depths of your psyche, the underlying drives behind your desires, your passions, and your innermost longings. Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a, Powered by Infopop www.infopop.com 2000

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I checked all my stored charts and only have it with one person.

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WebIf you really want to use Asteroids in synastry, we recommend using the following ones for a start, aside from the Name Asteroids of the involved persons: Sappho: this Asteroid is told to have an interest in sex, resulting in sexual charisma or sexual activity. And what about nodes of the moon touching asteroids? Conjunct my Neptune (3 degree). Love is child to child. If Aphrodite has a strong presence in your birth chart, it means you dont like to be tied to one person and will avoid highly demanding relationships.

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